Dating and sex timeline

I know some girls (in particular I think the girl I'm now dating) want BF/GF talk before intimacy... If we haven't become exclusive AND had sex by around 2 months (at this point), that's weird. I'd say, generally, if a guy hasn't kissed me by the 3rd date, that's weird.Guys fail to propose within a reasonable timescale and then act confused when the girl breaks off the relationship - as Beyonce said, "If you liked it then you should'a put a ring on it"... And I agree with Eeyore and zengirl...after 2 years if there is no commitment, I would cut my losses and move on.That is pretty much exactly what my timeline usually is, with one key distinction. That is pretty much exactly what my timeline usually is, with one key distinction.I mean, for me marriage is intricately connected to having kids (I want 3 or 4 ! I can't afford real estate and, similarly, I can't afford kids (I don't want to have kids until I can afford good (probably private) schooling, etc..) Hmm, interesting...I've heard it said that women wait for the right man to marry, while men wait for the right time. Supposedly a woman wants to marry when she meets a man who she wants to be married to.

I'm in my mid-20s: Hug -- 1st/2nd date Kiss -- around 2nd date? Sex -- sometime between 3-6 months Exclusivisity -- Prior to making out Prior to having sex, I'd need to be able to see that there is a likelihood of having a future with the guy. By a year, I'd need to have had "the talk" (where we see ourselves and this relationship in the near future).I'd like to think the relationship was more important than outside forces and needed no external validation.Many girls tend to assume that if you don't propose within a certain time frame you're a lost cause and will never propose, and at that point they begin to lose interest.Other than that, I pretty much let it flow for about a year. If there was no commitment by the two year mark I'd begin to get restless, and I'd probably have checked out of the relationship within the next six months.After a year, it has to already naturally be REALLY serious (like I could see myself marrying the guy, and he coud see the same, within another year or so), or I'm out. Usually I sit around for a good long while celibate and miserable about it, then after a period of time (from months to years) someone will catch my eye and I'll go for it. In my early twenties I had a three year relationship which was stable and nice, but it didn't appear to be going anywhere so I dumped him just before the third anniversary (he only just married his new gf at age 33! I subsequently had a relationship which lasted just over two years; we lived in the same house-share and I moved out before the two year mark because I was losing interest due to lack of commitment, and after several more weeks of indecision I finally dumped him (he's been with his new gf for four years and still hasn't married her! Another relationship suffered a similar fate; the guy in question made it very clear that he wasn't interested in marriage, so I ended the relationship just after the two year mark (he's now mid-thirties and still unmarried).

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